12-06-2007, 12:19 AM
Hi Crow.
It's funny how no one has time, yet we're surrounded by infinity.
Do people really not have time, or have they learned to tell themselves that?
When you were a baby, did you think about time and not having enough?
If not, it's learned... acquired... it's not who/what you are. It's a belief.
As a belief, we have to decide if it's useful or not... controlled folly.
I don't find it always useful. Death is my companion, but it doesn't mean I don't have time. When you live in this present moment, it doesn't matter if you have time or not... this is all there is.
The fact about time is, it arises when the "me" arises. When there's a "me", there must be an "other", then there must be distance between me and other, so there must be time. But if this "me" is seen to have no actual existence, then other and time have none either.
Maybe that sounds like all pen to you. It's different when you've tasted it. I'm not philosophising at all. I wouldn't waste our time.
Actually, I said "how do I know that this isn't enough?" "This" isn't something you have or get or attain. "This" is whatever this present moment presents. The present is presenting itself. You can't do anything about it. It does you.
The computer before you, your heart beating, the dog barking, your stomach growling, the feel of your feet against the floor, thoughts arising and passing away, the smell of coffee and the warmth of the cup in your hand.... Whatever your present moment is, when you're present in it, it is full, complete, lacking nothing. This present moment is the unmanifest manifest as life... whatever life may be in that moment, and nothing can be added or taken away to make it any more perfect, or perfectly imperfect.
But you won't know that unless your thoughts quiet down and you are actually here. Thought is always elsewhere. You cannot add thought to the present moment without obscuring its presence. But once you realise this present presence, you'll realise thought has never obscured it. :blink:
I don't live in presence all the time. Well, I do, we all do, but I'm not always aware of it. But that's okay, because I've seen that nothing that I do alters it, there's nothing I can do to achieve it, there's nothing I can do to lose it. It is beyond "I". "I" is a happening in this infinite present oneness. So if "I" farts, it is of no consequence. "I"s do whatever they do. Farting or being an impeccable warrior ... neither adds to or takes away from this infinity that you and I truly are. Neither gets you closer or farther (how could there be distance for infinity?).
Some people here think that what I'm saying isn't the warrior's way or CC's teaching, and part of that is my fault for labelling it non-duality. But it is. It's the end of the teaching where you drop even the sorcerers' description. But everyone expects, because CC said so, that we have to go through decades of discipline to get there. Discipline what, who? These thoughts arising? I don't see anyone to discipline, and the fact is, no one else sees it either. But they believe in it, because they've been taught that it is so from birth by their parents who also believed in it without ever actually seeing it. This "I", "me", mind, ego-self... will never be seen because it doesn't exist. The mirror of self-reflection makes it appear to exist.
Anyway, infinity is here, now. Or as this other dude said, "When will the kingdom come? It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying, 'here it is' or 'there it is'. Rather, the kingdom of heaven is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see/recognize it. Behold, the kingdom of heaven is upon you, now."
Failure is meaningless. Success is meaningless. There is just life to live, and it has no meaning either. lol!
a little zen:
Effortlessness cannot be achieved by effort.
No-mind cannot be achieved by the mind.
Peace cannot be achieved through striving.
It's funny how no one has time, yet we're surrounded by infinity.
Do people really not have time, or have they learned to tell themselves that?
When you were a baby, did you think about time and not having enough?
If not, it's learned... acquired... it's not who/what you are. It's a belief.
As a belief, we have to decide if it's useful or not... controlled folly.
I don't find it always useful. Death is my companion, but it doesn't mean I don't have time. When you live in this present moment, it doesn't matter if you have time or not... this is all there is.
The fact about time is, it arises when the "me" arises. When there's a "me", there must be an "other", then there must be distance between me and other, so there must be time. But if this "me" is seen to have no actual existence, then other and time have none either.
Maybe that sounds like all pen to you. It's different when you've tasted it. I'm not philosophising at all. I wouldn't waste our time.
Actually, I said "how do I know that this isn't enough?" "This" isn't something you have or get or attain. "This" is whatever this present moment presents. The present is presenting itself. You can't do anything about it. It does you.
The computer before you, your heart beating, the dog barking, your stomach growling, the feel of your feet against the floor, thoughts arising and passing away, the smell of coffee and the warmth of the cup in your hand.... Whatever your present moment is, when you're present in it, it is full, complete, lacking nothing. This present moment is the unmanifest manifest as life... whatever life may be in that moment, and nothing can be added or taken away to make it any more perfect, or perfectly imperfect.
But you won't know that unless your thoughts quiet down and you are actually here. Thought is always elsewhere. You cannot add thought to the present moment without obscuring its presence. But once you realise this present presence, you'll realise thought has never obscured it. :blink:
I don't live in presence all the time. Well, I do, we all do, but I'm not always aware of it. But that's okay, because I've seen that nothing that I do alters it, there's nothing I can do to achieve it, there's nothing I can do to lose it. It is beyond "I". "I" is a happening in this infinite present oneness. So if "I" farts, it is of no consequence. "I"s do whatever they do. Farting or being an impeccable warrior ... neither adds to or takes away from this infinity that you and I truly are. Neither gets you closer or farther (how could there be distance for infinity?).
Some people here think that what I'm saying isn't the warrior's way or CC's teaching, and part of that is my fault for labelling it non-duality. But it is. It's the end of the teaching where you drop even the sorcerers' description. But everyone expects, because CC said so, that we have to go through decades of discipline to get there. Discipline what, who? These thoughts arising? I don't see anyone to discipline, and the fact is, no one else sees it either. But they believe in it, because they've been taught that it is so from birth by their parents who also believed in it without ever actually seeing it. This "I", "me", mind, ego-self... will never be seen because it doesn't exist. The mirror of self-reflection makes it appear to exist.
Anyway, infinity is here, now. Or as this other dude said, "When will the kingdom come? It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying, 'here it is' or 'there it is'. Rather, the kingdom of heaven is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see/recognize it. Behold, the kingdom of heaven is upon you, now."
Failure is meaningless. Success is meaningless. There is just life to live, and it has no meaning either. lol!
a little zen:
Effortlessness cannot be achieved by effort.
No-mind cannot be achieved by the mind.
Peace cannot be achieved through striving.