10-17-2007, 04:12 AM
Greetings,
I'm jumping in late here, so bare with me (intentional spelling pun).
Lying is most certainly a part of stalking and stalking oneself. If you'll recall, DJ instructs CC to lie to others and himself until he no longer knows what's true and what's lie. CC says he doesn't like to deceive people and DJ says we deceive everyone anyway - something like that. If anyone wishes, I'll take the time to find the exact quote. This, to me, relates to their conversation about personal history when CC says "Well surely you know who you are, DJ - don't you?" And DJ replies, "Sure I..... don't."
To put all that together, lying and telling the truth are relative - they're only valid (maybe CC would use the term applicability) in reference or context of some other time or event. So basically, to tell the truth or a lie (why is it always the truth and a lie? :blink: ) you have to carry your past with you and keep reaffirming it, re-presenting it; you have to keep your personal history alive.
So one needs to see the direct connection between honesty and personal history, or dishonesty and personal history. You see, the emphasis, for a warrior anyways, shouldn't be on honesty or dishonesty, both are personal history - both require you to maintain an idea of yourself and thus be anchored in the past. The emphasis is to free yourself of the self - to be free of personal history. Warriors are not moral. Their impeccability is strictly a matter of saving energy. And it requires more energy to drag your past around (a "good" past or a "bad" past) than to be present.
On the other hand, if you're going to live in the world and relate to others in business and relationships, etc, you're probably going to have to practice honesty to a large degree. You're going to have to have a consistent idea of self to present to those people or they won't tolerate you for long.
I'm jumping in late here, so bare with me (intentional spelling pun).
Lying is most certainly a part of stalking and stalking oneself. If you'll recall, DJ instructs CC to lie to others and himself until he no longer knows what's true and what's lie. CC says he doesn't like to deceive people and DJ says we deceive everyone anyway - something like that. If anyone wishes, I'll take the time to find the exact quote. This, to me, relates to their conversation about personal history when CC says "Well surely you know who you are, DJ - don't you?" And DJ replies, "Sure I..... don't."
To put all that together, lying and telling the truth are relative - they're only valid (maybe CC would use the term applicability) in reference or context of some other time or event. So basically, to tell the truth or a lie (why is it always the truth and a lie? :blink: ) you have to carry your past with you and keep reaffirming it, re-presenting it; you have to keep your personal history alive.
So one needs to see the direct connection between honesty and personal history, or dishonesty and personal history. You see, the emphasis, for a warrior anyways, shouldn't be on honesty or dishonesty, both are personal history - both require you to maintain an idea of yourself and thus be anchored in the past. The emphasis is to free yourself of the self - to be free of personal history. Warriors are not moral. Their impeccability is strictly a matter of saving energy. And it requires more energy to drag your past around (a "good" past or a "bad" past) than to be present.
On the other hand, if you're going to live in the world and relate to others in business and relationships, etc, you're probably going to have to practice honesty to a large degree. You're going to have to have a consistent idea of self to present to those people or they won't tolerate you for long.