12-05-2007, 05:05 AM
Interesting topic. I'm making my way through it. Here's one comment:
"Don Juan mentioned that "a warrior never denies himself of anything". When it comes to trying to stop ourselves from doing something, this can be a very puzzling concept; stopping without denying. I haven't quite figured that one out yet, but little by little this concept seems to be growing on me, or into me."
DJ explained that denying oneself gives the false impression that we're accomplishing something. My interpretation or understanding is that it is the self that determines to deny the self (when I say "self", I mean "me" or "mind").
J. Krishnamurti's books really clarified this for me. Other non-duality authors speak of it. They usually use the analogy of a cop trying to catch a thief when he himself is the thief.
The mind will never end the mind. It's a joke! Denying oneself is the mind trying to end the mind, and thus useless to a warrior.
But acting for the hell of it is another thing.
"Why the fuck am i doing this? Making myself feel antsy. Came in contact with 2 real pretty girl today....You are being tested my friend. Jesus Christ. Over a month to go. How could i make this agreement? Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. You think that sugar will make the symptoms go away? You fucking moron! You are pitiful. You are our food. Eat shit., see if we care. Keep twitching my friend. You can't go even 10 days? Give up! It's convenient! Who are you fooling?"
You see. Mind can only enhance mind. Mind denying mind actually empowers mind. Now mind is in conflict with itself. Flyer food.
Hmmm. I wonder who will win the mind versus mind conflict?...
"I helped myself to a nut.
I lasted 5 days. On the first I did some Dreaming and all I did was grab girls in my dream, but I didn't cum because I remebered my promise. Today I broke my promise and it felt soooo gooood."
Oh look! The mind won!
Please no one take this personally. I'm not speaking about any person. Every mind does this... no need to make it personal. I'm laughing at mind, not any individual.
"Don Juan mentioned that "a warrior never denies himself of anything". When it comes to trying to stop ourselves from doing something, this can be a very puzzling concept; stopping without denying. I haven't quite figured that one out yet, but little by little this concept seems to be growing on me, or into me."
DJ explained that denying oneself gives the false impression that we're accomplishing something. My interpretation or understanding is that it is the self that determines to deny the self (when I say "self", I mean "me" or "mind").
J. Krishnamurti's books really clarified this for me. Other non-duality authors speak of it. They usually use the analogy of a cop trying to catch a thief when he himself is the thief.
The mind will never end the mind. It's a joke! Denying oneself is the mind trying to end the mind, and thus useless to a warrior.
But acting for the hell of it is another thing.
"Why the fuck am i doing this? Making myself feel antsy. Came in contact with 2 real pretty girl today....You are being tested my friend. Jesus Christ. Over a month to go. How could i make this agreement? Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. You think that sugar will make the symptoms go away? You fucking moron! You are pitiful. You are our food. Eat shit., see if we care. Keep twitching my friend. You can't go even 10 days? Give up! It's convenient! Who are you fooling?"
You see. Mind can only enhance mind. Mind denying mind actually empowers mind. Now mind is in conflict with itself. Flyer food.
Hmmm. I wonder who will win the mind versus mind conflict?...
"I helped myself to a nut.
I lasted 5 days. On the first I did some Dreaming and all I did was grab girls in my dream, but I didn't cum because I remebered my promise. Today I broke my promise and it felt soooo gooood."
Oh look! The mind won!
Please no one take this personally. I'm not speaking about any person. Every mind does this... no need to make it personal. I'm laughing at mind, not any individual.