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Hi again True! Smile The statements about "imagining" in my previous post were not mentioned as a reflection of what you or I may think or perceive now, today. I was illustrating the point that we are all "at one point" or another in the past, subject to the collective thoughts of linearism that is evident within a common mind set of humankind. When we were young and first learned of the idea of "heaven," we thought about it in the linear sense, of life after death. But, I certainly appreciate the response... and yes, it certainly provided insightful points about communication. So, in the same regard, I will also try to be as direct and clear as possible henceforth. Let us continue :

I gather from your response about evolution, that "awareness" is important. In this case, I am supposing you mean that its important to be "aware" of universal intent. But, still I think this compares species on some kind of measurable scale of awareness. Whereas, in my own thoughts I see universal intent as the manifestations of Gods awareness. I don't associate a species, such as an amoeba, as being any less aware than a dolphin. They both serve to perpetuate creation. But I suppose, ultimately, the main topic of our discussion is - humans.

Humans are certainly aware of some things. But are they really aware of 'universal intent?' If we examine how things have progressed since the agricultural revolution, it seems (in my own opinion), that man has suffered a tremendous deal. They have also made countless animals suffer or become extinct, butchered animals on a large scale to satisfy their own appetites, completely altered environments, split atoms, expanded the global population beyond capacity, and dissected practically everything in the name of control. If we return for a moment to my early post on how modern man introduced chaos to a world of harmony, my question becomes - are humans really aware? Certainly they had the potential. But it almost seems to me that humans have crossed a line, where natural selection no longer applies. The collective species of humans today are amazingly nothing like rhythm and harmony, and thus I see them as being very out of touch with that awareness. I don't mean to bash on the human race... but they're killing themselves very slowly.

By saying that dolphins may be more aware of something else... someone might interpret that as you inferring that dolphins somehow offer something more to the world because of that awareness. Perhaps that's not what you mean, but either way, universal intent is "universal" and the awareness of that, in my own opinion, was profound and perfect before man began his quest to seek all the answers and enlightenment. I mean to say that the awareness of universal intent was the same for a snail, as it was for a rhinoceros, because things were in a pure state of harmony.

This brings me to the ideas of "Symbiotic Association." This idea, is very much like the teachings of "Emptiness," in Buddhism. The teachings of Emptiness imply that everything is Empty. Students are given this statement to meditate on, and eventually will begin to ask... "Well, empty of what? What does that mean?" It means that everything is 'empty' of a separate self. In other words, one thing cannot exist without other things. The easiest example to illustrate this, and one that is commonly used to convery this idea, is by examining a sheet of paper. A sheet of paper cannot exist without a cloud. The cloud must provide the rain that made the tree grow. There also must be sunlight to help the tree grow, and soil for it to grow in. There must be air to breathe. There also must have been someone who cut down the tree and made this paper. There must also be a mother and father who made the person that cut down the tree. Gradually we can continue to branch out with this idea and see that everything contributes to the creation of this sheet of paper, except for the paper itself (the separate self.) The paper itself is empty.

Symbiotic Association is very similar. It is all about relationships, and how these relationships sustain ecosystems and the world. Here is an example of the relationships I am talking about :

Imagine a crocodile in the Nile River. There are little leeches that get into his mouth and threaten his existence. A crocodile cannot move his tongue very well, and most of the time, these little leeches get stuck inside his mouth and he can't get them out. So, what happens, is that the crocodile develops a relationship with a little tiny bird. The crocodile goes onto the shore and stretches open his mouth. The little bird hops over and slowly tip-toes into his mouth... and eats all the leeches. The bird gets fed, and the crocodile gets cleaned and healthy.

There are millions of these little tiny relationships that have developed in nature and the universe and contribute to evolution on massive scales. Without preserving these relationships with everything else... man's potential is reduced to a helpless state.

So, I suppose my next question is, what should man really be aware of? I would also like to know your thoughts on the ideas presented here. Thanks!

Silk

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