01-25-2008, 07:54 AM
Based on the premise that all knowledge is acquired and any specific knowledge is merely one description, once you're convinced of this you learn to observe yourself doing it, to stalk yourself and then catch it in the moment and ask yourself if it's absolutely true (which it never is). Or ask if using oneself as the reference point or measure has any objective value (is more than just another description chosen to benefit your own view).
You'll find that your description is selected and preferred because it enforces your past identity and perpetuates it.
This conscious effort is not an effort to accurately measure (at least not for me). It's an effort to not know, to deconstruct, to allow unknowing which is more mysterious than knowing.
The intent is not to remove the self while questioning, but to remove the certainty of self as measure. Then winning and losing become inapplicable.
All measure with self as reference point is based only on what you know and not an objective measure containing all knowledge, so your measurement is relative and not worth investing in as a warrior-seer. You never will know all knowledge, so there never will be an objective measure, so a warrior learns to give up measuring as a way of knowledge/knowing.
In another post I quoted CC saying "a sorcerer's only reference point is infinity" and mentioned the immense implications of such a statement. There is no measuring infinity or within infinity... unless you agree to set up an imaginary fixed refernce point to measure from. But nothing in infinity is fixed, so this must be folly. As folly we can agree on who is the winner or loser of a game according to certain rules and measures, but if you maintain awareness that this is a game/folly, then you don't believe in it or in yourself as winner or loser - you don't invest it with personal meaning (self-importance/winner or self-pity/loser).
Alongside measuring, one must also stalk comparison, which measuring is a form of. All comparisons one can make are based on one's personal past, known, acquired knowledge, and must be deconstructed also (remove belief/certainty in your description as final and make equal to all descriptions as folly).
Again, it is the ego-identity that find it necessary, in order to perpetuate itself (its lie of a self) through comparing this present with some past, this mystery (unknown) with some known.
You'll find that your description is selected and preferred because it enforces your past identity and perpetuates it.
This conscious effort is not an effort to accurately measure (at least not for me). It's an effort to not know, to deconstruct, to allow unknowing which is more mysterious than knowing.
The intent is not to remove the self while questioning, but to remove the certainty of self as measure. Then winning and losing become inapplicable.
All measure with self as reference point is based only on what you know and not an objective measure containing all knowledge, so your measurement is relative and not worth investing in as a warrior-seer. You never will know all knowledge, so there never will be an objective measure, so a warrior learns to give up measuring as a way of knowledge/knowing.
In another post I quoted CC saying "a sorcerer's only reference point is infinity" and mentioned the immense implications of such a statement. There is no measuring infinity or within infinity... unless you agree to set up an imaginary fixed refernce point to measure from. But nothing in infinity is fixed, so this must be folly. As folly we can agree on who is the winner or loser of a game according to certain rules and measures, but if you maintain awareness that this is a game/folly, then you don't believe in it or in yourself as winner or loser - you don't invest it with personal meaning (self-importance/winner or self-pity/loser).
Alongside measuring, one must also stalk comparison, which measuring is a form of. All comparisons one can make are based on one's personal past, known, acquired knowledge, and must be deconstructed also (remove belief/certainty in your description as final and make equal to all descriptions as folly).
Again, it is the ego-identity that find it necessary, in order to perpetuate itself (its lie of a self) through comparing this present with some past, this mystery (unknown) with some known.