03-19-2008, 08:14 AM
I'm not coming to any conclusions, but how can we know if there is any difference between the amazing events in CC's books and hypnosis.
Here are some similar events in Darren's videos and CC's books, just for pondering:
1. In the "one-inch punch" video, D knocks a guy back without touching him, then does it from behind so he cannot be seen, but he is felt.
Congruence: DJ hits CC on the back to send him into heightened awareness. Could that also not be a hypnotic cue, the slap on the back?
2. In "erasing the sun", D brings a guy to a location and tells him he can make the sun dissapear. They draw a circle in the sand and erase it, do it again, and before the third time he quickly induces hypnotic catalepsy, lays the guy down and waits a few hours for dark to come on, he changes the guy's watch to show the same time as earlier and he brings him out as they draw the third and final circle. The guy believes the sun has dissapeared.
Congruence: reminds me of watching the same leaf fall and making CC's car disapear.
3. In an episode of "trick or treat" D induces hypnotic catalepsy on this guy in a photo booth and then moves them on a plane from England to Morocco and has the guy wake up in this foreign place without the sense of any missing time.
Congruency: CC is shoved by DJ and ends up miles away in another town.
Also, did CC really jump off that cliff?
(if you are familiar with hypnosis and nlp, any touching or sounds or stimulus to any sensory organ can be made a cue to enter hypnotic state/trance or sleep, depending on what you set up. I'm not saying they are, but there is no reason that these shoves and blows to the back are not hypnotic cues.)
4. In "staring contest" D makes anyone feel very uncomfortable so they cannot win the staring contest.
Congruency: Sacateca "dances" for CC and makes him very uncomfortable. S's "dance" is EXTREMELY, EXACTLY like a specialized hypnotic induction technique.
I'm sure there are many more congruencies. Again, I am not saying these are definitely instances of hypnosis, except for Sacateca's dance - I'd bet on that one, but I'm saying hypnosis CAN explain many instances. And why should we exclude the possibility? Don't these sorcerers come from a lineage of sorcerer/hypnotists? Isn't that the black magician, one who influences another? Isn't that the old seers who focussed on manipulating their fellow men? If you are familiar with hypnosis/nlp, you can't deny the similarities. NLPers are terrific stalkers who know how the human being works and can influence them and change their perception of reality, often by touching and speaking (anchoring). I'm becoming more and more certain that DJ used similar methods with CC. I know we want to resist that because it turns "real" magic into trickery, but that's what the human mind IS - a huge trick!
Please familiarise yourself with some nlp concepts and watch some videos of Darren Brown before debating. And remember how DJ hooked CC from the beginning. What does it matter if we call it will or hypnosis?
And do you know one of the two "creators" of nlp, John Grinder, has split off and formed another branch called "New Code" NLP which draws its inspiration from information theory and the works of Carlos Castaneda! I haven't had time to check this out yet, but I will soon.
Here are some similar events in Darren's videos and CC's books, just for pondering:
1. In the "one-inch punch" video, D knocks a guy back without touching him, then does it from behind so he cannot be seen, but he is felt.
Congruence: DJ hits CC on the back to send him into heightened awareness. Could that also not be a hypnotic cue, the slap on the back?
2. In "erasing the sun", D brings a guy to a location and tells him he can make the sun dissapear. They draw a circle in the sand and erase it, do it again, and before the third time he quickly induces hypnotic catalepsy, lays the guy down and waits a few hours for dark to come on, he changes the guy's watch to show the same time as earlier and he brings him out as they draw the third and final circle. The guy believes the sun has dissapeared.
Congruence: reminds me of watching the same leaf fall and making CC's car disapear.
3. In an episode of "trick or treat" D induces hypnotic catalepsy on this guy in a photo booth and then moves them on a plane from England to Morocco and has the guy wake up in this foreign place without the sense of any missing time.
Congruency: CC is shoved by DJ and ends up miles away in another town.
Also, did CC really jump off that cliff?
(if you are familiar with hypnosis and nlp, any touching or sounds or stimulus to any sensory organ can be made a cue to enter hypnotic state/trance or sleep, depending on what you set up. I'm not saying they are, but there is no reason that these shoves and blows to the back are not hypnotic cues.)
4. In "staring contest" D makes anyone feel very uncomfortable so they cannot win the staring contest.
Congruency: Sacateca "dances" for CC and makes him very uncomfortable. S's "dance" is EXTREMELY, EXACTLY like a specialized hypnotic induction technique.
I'm sure there are many more congruencies. Again, I am not saying these are definitely instances of hypnosis, except for Sacateca's dance - I'd bet on that one, but I'm saying hypnosis CAN explain many instances. And why should we exclude the possibility? Don't these sorcerers come from a lineage of sorcerer/hypnotists? Isn't that the black magician, one who influences another? Isn't that the old seers who focussed on manipulating their fellow men? If you are familiar with hypnosis/nlp, you can't deny the similarities. NLPers are terrific stalkers who know how the human being works and can influence them and change their perception of reality, often by touching and speaking (anchoring). I'm becoming more and more certain that DJ used similar methods with CC. I know we want to resist that because it turns "real" magic into trickery, but that's what the human mind IS - a huge trick!
Please familiarise yourself with some nlp concepts and watch some videos of Darren Brown before debating. And remember how DJ hooked CC from the beginning. What does it matter if we call it will or hypnosis?
And do you know one of the two "creators" of nlp, John Grinder, has split off and formed another branch called "New Code" NLP which draws its inspiration from information theory and the works of Carlos Castaneda! I haven't had time to check this out yet, but I will soon.