[joyseph]

I think the difficulty everyone has even remembering dreams is a case in point. Dreams and that displacement of the assemblage point -- takes fortitude, impeccability, sobriety to accomplish recall. Oh, yeah, and fluidity.

Recently I spent an absolutely fitful night dreaming, hours on end. I would wake up and go back to sleep and start up again almost exactly where I left off. I was exhausted in the morning. And it was all about nothing much: some stuff going on a some hotel, people coming and going all over the place, the usual melee.

Later in the morning, though, I remembered that in the middle of all that someone was talking to me about traversing into the unknown. That occurred in some sort of special attention! I wish I could REMEMBER more of the details of it.

It's in there nonetheless. "A warrior knows that he is waiting and what he is waiting for ..."

[Merged]

yeah, i am familiar with similar re-occuring memories that pop up. sometimes, it's from the waking life, sometimes it's from a dream. sometimes, i have memories of a dream with someone who was in the dream with me and I'm just about to talk to them about it not initially realizing that it happened only in a dream before i stop myself and realize that it was a dream memory.

yeah ensonar, i think i agree with your explanation of the miniscule shift in the assemblage point...i do remember don juan saying that and emotions are where memories are stored. it's like there are many analogies in life that repeat themselves...maybe for us to learn lessons that we habitually don't; maybe to get a more precise and deeper understanding of our follies.

yeah joyseph, i wouldnt be surprised at all if that hotel dream you mentioned was a "real" dream. i remember don juan mentioning that it's possible that there are multiple entities watching us in our dreams; sometimes they can appear as a friend so they can interact w/ you, sometimes, they choose to remain un-noticed just so they can observe you. i personally think we're probably being observed all the time; even in our waking life.

joyseph, it's like someone was trying to give you a 'push' in the direction of development when they mentioned traversing into the unknown while the dream was on-going at that time.

wouldn't it be great if science could get precise enough to actually detect or measure the assemblage point somehow...i think the assemblage point is on the spiritual level though and not the physical; it wouldn't be science then since science deals with physical matter by definition. we'd have to work backwards from gaining spiritual sight to be able to "see" and then create equipment to consistently measure what some can "see"

hmm, i wonder what we would name this new "spiritual" science?
(sorry for the ADD-like tanget guys.)

[smellyfart]

Salutations and greetings,

It seems to me that there are an infinite amount of positions of heightned awareness. Some of these states are useless, or at least useless from the standpoint of what I understand our quest to be. Sometimes it's even reckless to put ourselves in such states during certain times. But for me states of heightned awareness convince my body that what I am doing if REAL! Acting without believing is definetely a not-doing, but in this case I think I'll pass.