[ryan]

I'm at the point where I am using certain behaviors in my stalking, not from the standpoint of acting them out, but feeling them, intending them, etc. And these states include an element of self importance in them ie:intimidation, aloofness. Now I am able to switch back to my baseline state, but if those emotions and feelings are energy draining, doesn't that confuse the issue?

[ryan]

thank you for your insightfull comments

[Merged]

To be honest I failed to understand the question. It's too general and could mean anything at all.

[ensonar]

I almost responded to this earlier, but I also wasn't sure I understood the question.

However, it seems to me that most people tend to confuse themselves in the beginning (and the beginning can last for years, and years).

If stalking is making you "more" self-important, then it seems obvious to me that you're just confusing things. As a stalker, self-importance is one of the things you are stalking. You are stalking yourself in order to remove self-importance.

If you feel that your activities are making you more self important, then it just goes to show that you probably haven't trapped your prey just yet. But the fact that you are aware of what is going on, means you may be on the right path.

[Merged]

In addition:
In my viewpoint Ryan is talking of stalking other people exclusively, without stalking the self. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Imho this form of stalking shouldn't be practiced by a beginner (am a beginner myself, so take no offense, Ryan). You wear a mask to provoke people to react in a certain way and that's done to provoke your own emotions to stalk them. So in truth you're always stalking the self, and other people are being stalked only to help you feel certain reactions and emotions that you wish to stalk. If you haven't studied yourself well enough and don't really know what you need to provoke yourself to feel, stalking other people serves no purpose.
Just my two cents.

[ryan]

Thanks. I think now I can clarify my question based on your feedback. Does a shift in the assemblage point include all the thoughts and feelings associated with that shift, like say if you wanted to become a grumpy old man, would the shift just allow you to act like one,or would you become one, mentally.

What prompted my question is: in the course of my day as a salesman, I would use these same techniques but just from the standpoint of acting them out. And when I use the term "act" I'm refering to gestures, tone of voice, choice of words etc. I began to wonder if actually feeling them would make them more convicing. And it reminded me of the occasions when Don Juan would seemingly get angry at Carlos and then when Carlos would ask Don Juan why he was angry at him Juan would revert back to the patient old man that he usually was. I know that whatever the answer doing these things is kinda like playing with fire, and it probably is beyond me to balance it. That's why I truly want your imput. If it's draining my energy I want to stop it. So does that explain it a little bit better, or am a just digging a deeper hole?

[ensonar]

I can see what you're saying now. It seems to me that it would just be a matter of your own judgement. Don Juan would act like a senile old man and then in one second be back to his normal exuberant self. He knew what he was doing.

If you were to find some need to act like a jerk, in order to accomplish something specific, then only you can be the judge of whether or not that you are truly indifferent to the matter. Indifferent to the method, and indifferent to the outcome.

[ryan]

nicely put. thanks

[DrakeWan]

nicely put. thanks

you have to look at it from another view as well..

Who is the one thats really questioning it?

If you can explain yourself.. than you are without questions.. concerning your behavior..

you can justify it.. even though you don't need to.. or care to... but its possible...

If you question yourself.. you'll never be able to accomplish freedom.. you cage yourself in judging your own actions... its okay to recap.. but not to pre-cap... MAKE it how you want it... don't guess how it can happen.

[BratscheWarrior]

i'm going to respond specifically to your concern of being a saleman and stalking. i'll write about what i do and then you (ryan) can think about how it may apply to your situation.

i teach kids...i'm in a unique position where i can influence them energetically. i push impeccability on them. i don't use that word specifically, but then again, when i discuss energy with people not on the Path, i have to veil it with choice words. After all, who do you know that if you told them that there were ONLY 3 kinds of people (dreamers, stalkers, farts) in the world would believe you? How would you directly talk to people about 'double-beings'? So in my teaching, i have to act (stalk) in such a way that they can pick up what i am teaching them. i would say 90% of the time, if someone watched me teach, they would think i'm a nutcase! But as long as my students are learning and HAVING FUN, i could care less about how their parents or whoever think about my actions. Because it's not about parents or me. It's about the kids. Getting them to think for themselves. One of my favorite things to do is to pretend to not know something that is basic knowledge. And they GO NUTS correcting me! So much fun...

It's all stalking... and i seem to be noticeably doing it more and more these days.

All this interacting with kids (who will have so much fun playing with something like a paper bag) teaches me how to experience joy, affection, efficiency and abandon.

Hope this is of some help.